[28][29][30] If any legionaries keep faith in Talos, as it is implied Legate Rikke or Hadvar do, they keep their religion to themselves and pray to Talos discreetly and out of earshot. Fourth, 4E 176[1] – ongoing (Possible ending in 4E 201)[2] My honest opinion is that the Thalmor take full control over the Imperial City and oust the Imperials. I think it would make sense if such an event or events would serve as suitable points in time for a Dragon Break to end. Bethesda also can't do the Mass Effect thing and include both possibilities in TES 6 without releasing two titles with dramatically different political spectra. During this interrogation, Ulfric was made to believe that he divulged information which led to the fall of the Imperial City before being allowed to escape. The starting Hold positions for those that support the Stormcloaks and those who support the Empire are similar to the split between East and West Skyrim which occurred during the, Even though they play a major part in the tension between the Stormcloaks and the Imperial Legion, the Thalmor play no major part in the war itself, although. The Stormcloaks engaging in the final assault on Solitude. First Forsworn uprising Why would you think they would "choose" one of those options and adopt it is as cannon? Imperial Legion We are currently maintaining 21,715 pages (11,862 articles) . The Skyrim guide for Armor, Weapons, Quests and more written and maintained by the players. i think this is due to the fact that bethesda has already put the empire into a downward spiral, why not keep going! Extra Dominion/Skyrim Reinforcements let's you add extra soldiers to either side. © Valve Corporation. That would be an awful way to start off with a new title. This time I did the Stormcloaks. Minor skirmishes between Stormcloak and Imperial forces on the roads and in the wilderness. But, Skyrim's civil war is fairly isolated, where the death of Tamriel's Emperor is not. During this interrogation, Ulfric was made to believe that he divulged information which led to the fall of the Imperial City before being allowed to escape. Heavy Ulfric StormcloakGalmar Stone-FistYrsarald Thrice-PiercedKai Wet-PommelGonnar Oath-GiverFrorkmar Banner-TornHjornskar Head-SmasherThorygg Sun-KillerKottir Red-ShoalArrald Frozen-HeartIstar Cairn-BreakerRalofGunjar Delay War prevents the war from starting once the civil war ends. Several years prior to 4E 201, there were clashes between the Imperial Legion and Stormcloaks in Eastmarch Hold, the outcome of this skirmish is unknown. The Empire controls Falkreath, Haafingar, Hjaalmarch, and the Reach, while the Stormcloaks control Eastmarch, the Pale, the Rift and Winterhold. The terms of the treaty included banning Talos worship. However, there is a great difference between agreeing to such terms under the mere threat of war, and agreeing to them at the end of a long and destructive war. You are first asked to choose sides shortly after you escape your near-execution and the subsequent dragon attack during the Unbound quest, at the point when you choose whether to enter Helgen Keep with Ralof, a Stormcloak, or with Hadvar, an Imperial soldier. We will still have an empire but instead of a Imperial /human emperor it will be an High Elf who sits on the ruby throne. [17][21] After the Markarth Incident, Ulfric refused direct contact with the Thalmor.[18]. The outcome of this ambush is unknown, as the Stormcloak who gives the information got shot by an archer before the battle was over. No part of the Empire would have accepted these terms in 4E 171, dictated by the Thalmor at swords-point. [38], General Tullius is the military governor of Skyrim and the commander of the Legion in the province. The civil war began. Second topic. Both sides have the same tasks, with plenty of individuals throughout the region relaying the deeds of both sides. Okay, probably a little less stressful than buying a house in real life, but still, it can be quite a bit of gold! It's neutral, it's safe, and as far as I'm concerned it's an alright ending. Next A large-scale civil war is taking place in Skyrim, fought between the Imperial Legion and the Stormcloaks. Long post incoming. These quests tie in to the Skyrim Civil War between the Stormcloaks and the Imperials. Once the civil war has ended, Start War will be enabled, and you can start the war when you are ready. I think Skyrim's biggest flaw is the fact that a lot of what you do doesn't matter. This of course interrupts the Civil War in Skyrim, and one of the main reasons for the war (the White-Gold Concordat) is now invalid, a truce is easily arranged; Ulfric Stormcloak will be recognized as High King and will follow a more autonomous line of government, but Skyrim will nominally remain part of the Empire. Whiterun Hold had been neutral territory during the Skyrim Civil War,[52] with skirmishes on both sides[53] taking place in the Hold and Fort Greymoor switching hands between the Empire and Stormcloaks on a regular basis. The Legion is attempting to quell the rebellion led by Ulfric Stormcloak, with the goal of restoring the peace and keeping Skyrim in the Empire. I did Empire my first playthrough. [25] Others state the name was created by Ulfric himself to show his lust for power.[27]. Ulfric Stormcloak leading some of his forces. Let me hint, then, that the game suggests that a war with the Aldmeri Dominion in the future is more than likely regardless of which side you choose. The series has sold more than 59 million copies worldwide. The Second Great War is a mod that adds brand new quests that begin after the original civil war questline. Previous Ulfric Stormcloak killed High King Torygg with the help of the. Some preliminary information: In this particular chapter of our guide to Skyrim we haven't included any side quests related to the main guilds of the in-game world (The Companions, College of Winterhold, Thieves Guild, Dark Brotherhood), neither any daedric quests or civil war quests. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim; Canon civil war ending? Buying a house in Skyrim can be a stressful affair. I wager it has to be the Imperials winning. the NPCs related to that quest will react 1 to the outcome. Imperial troops are trying to conquer Winterhold, but had not been successful. The rebels' stated goals include lifting the ban on Talos worship across Skyrim, expelling or executing all the Thalmor Justiciars[22] who have been granted the authority by the Empire to enforce the White-Gold Concordat within the province, crown Ulfric Stormcloak the High King of Skyrim,[23] and to independently prepare Skyrim for a future war with the Aldmeri Dominion. Your character may keep their allegiance to Skyrim, or they may be lured in … Era There's the main quest line, but the game doesn't end: it just wraps up like any other quest chain. Each house has a bit of its own flair, advantages, disadvantages, and perhaps most importantly, location. The Imperial Legion is the military arm of the Empire, which, prior to its Great War with the Aldmeri Dominion, ruled over most of Tamriel. *Disclosure: Some of the links above are affiliate links, meaning, at no additional cost to you, Fandom will earn a commission if you click through and make a purchase. [19] After the Great War ended, the Thalmor established contact with Ulfric, believing that he could be a valuable asset. [1] They also played a role at the execution in Helgen, where they tried to save Ulfric Stormcloak from execution, in order to keep the war going. All rights reserved. Skyrim could have succeeded peacefuly, like Hammerfell did long ago. Elder Scrolls is a FANDOM Games Community. They gave players the choice to back one of two sides in the conflict. The Civil War on the other would most likely follow Skyrim's main questline to the point where the LDB forces a truce between the Imperial and Stormcloaks and leave it as that. [15] Though most do not approve of the White-Gold Concordat, the Imperials are forced to allow the Thalmor to uphold it in order to preserve the peace between the Empire and the Aldmeri Dominion. General TulliusLegate RikkeCaptain AldisHadvarImperial Captain[3]Legate Adventus CaesenniusLegate Constantius TituleiusLegate Emmanuel AdmandLegate FasendilLegate HrollodLegate Quentin CipiusLegate Sevan TelendasLegate SkulnarLegate Taurinus Duilis I'm sure this has been asked many times so i'll just cut to the chase. Several Imperial Legions[7][8]Haafingar Conscripts[9] [40], Initially, both the Empire and the Stormcloak Rebellion control four Holds. A Thalmor takeover, for example, would pretty much nullify the historical significance of the divergent Skyrim quest endings. The Markarth Incident proved his worth to them, although the Thalmor later forcibly imprisoned him. Some Nords, notably Jarl Laila Law-Giver of Riften, do not entirely trust or support Ulfric but back the Stormcloaks as they share the common goal of independence from the Empire,[26] while others feel the civil war bleeds Skyrim dry and will leave the Thalmor as the sole beneficiaries. Español - Latinoamérica (Spanish - Latin America). The civil war in Skyrim is only one slice of a larger cake of war and politics that is going on in Tamriel at the time of the game. [21] However, when the Thalmor found out about the Empire breaking the terms of the White-Gold Concordat, they demanded the arrest of Ulfric Stormcloak and his militia,[1] at this point the Emperor was also forced to grant the Thalmor access[29] to Skyrim and give them the rights to "drag people from their houses" if they worshiped Talos. With the civil war in Skyrim receiving an ending during TES: V, there’s a question about how Bethesda will address the canonical ending of the civil war in the next game. Thalmor sources imply that they kept some degree of contact with Ulfric following his escape.At the end of the war in 4E 175, … At Giant's Gap, a group of Stormcloaks was ambushed. Place The Skyrim Civil War, called the Stormcloak Rebellion [5] by the Empire, and frequently shortened to simply the Civil War [6] is an ongoing civil war in the province of Skyrim. Civil War The brewing Civil War in Skyrim is between two main factions, the Imperial Legion and the Stormcloaks. All that would do is make half of the fans jump up and down and say "I was RIGHT" while the other half would be upset and feel short-changed by the devs. Battle for Whiterun Imperial forces are stationed on the border between the Rift and Eastmarch, threatening the southern flank of Eastmarch. So what is the canon ending to the civil war? The civil war is a huge shifting of power and although it could end up being the same outcome regardless of the outcome of Skyrim, it would be more tidy and give more lore for books and stuff with canon. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. No one cares that you are the Dragonborn or of what you've done. [21] Ultimately, this is where the Civil War truly started. The Stormcloaks claim to hold fast to old Nord customs and values and recruit from those who share their principles. It wasn't the main quest, I don't see why they would need to ever mention it again. Nord rebelsEastmarch, Pale, and Rift conscripts[4][5][6] [55] After an unknown period of time, Ulfric started planning an attack on Whiterun. [50], The Imperial Legion has sent Legate Fasendil to Skyrim to keep an eye on the Thalmor, who suspects that they are behind the unrest in Skyrim. Really the Civil War is an epic fail as their is no depth in the conflict past "oh they don't let us worship Talos vs Nord suprmacy." The white-gold treaty. The Empire was beaten into submission by the Thalmor, and in this fight fought Ulfric. [11], The name "Stormcloaks" was created by the Empire in an attempt to belittle the uprising, by implying that its supporters are Ulfric's personal lackeys in his bid for power. Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim all won Game of the Year awards from multiple outlets. also which province do you think the next elder scrolls will take place in? ***POSSIBLE SPOILERS***. Not to mention there are quite a few different options when looking at the housing market in Skyrim. "Winner" of the Civil War doesn't matter. [39] In Skyrim, the Legion is headquartered at Castle Dour in the city of Solitude,[15] with Legate Rikke serving as their field commander. [34], The majority of Skyrim's more affluent populace are supportive of the Empire, as they feel Ulfric's speeches amount to political posturing and that his underlying motive is to become Skyrim's new High King. Skyrim's Civil War questline may seem like an open and shut case, but there's a lot more going on than what meets the eye, it seems. Related Events [15] Tullius has only been around for a few months, but has really turned things around for the Empire. The guild quests managed to be worse than Oblivion as well. Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. [33] At the same time, Maven Black-Briar respects the Thalmor due to them holding power. You can make a choice to accept the sug… You may end a civil war and save the world from being destroyed by a legendary dragon/prophecy, but their is no incentive for it. However, the rebels have since defiantly taken the name and made it their own, to honor the common cause of Skyrim's independence they are fighting for. After your chosen side wins the war, the Aldmeri Dominion steps in and plans to take control of Skyrim. [Source], The Skyrim Civil War, called the Stormcloak Rebellion[11] by the Empire, and frequently shortened to simply the Civil War[12] is an ongoing civil war in the province of Skyrim. None of the endings, my personal favourite outcome. It began several years prior to the death of High KingTorygg, [7] [8] but worsened after he was slain by the Jarl of Windhelm, Ulfric Stormcloak. They consider themselves the "true sons and daughters of Skyrim" since they are the only force in Skyrim who have not capitulated to the Aldmeri Dominion and are openly revolting against their influence. [11], The Imperial Legion believes that as a province of the Empire, Skyrim must abide by its laws and customs. What do you figure the canonical ending to the civil war quest is? [48], The Thalmor plays a role in the Skyrim civil war, certain sources indicate that they are the (indirect) cause of the Civil War in Skyrim. As opposed to taking sides in the conflict, you have an alternative option of getting a truce. Thalmor sources imply that they kept some degree of contact with Ulfric following his escape. After escaping the Helgen keep, your chosen companion will suggest that you join their side, adding the corresponding quest to your log. Skyrim is in turmoil because the Stormcloaks believe their Nord way of life is at risk, while the Imperials believe Skyrim is a part of the Empire, and must follow its laws and customs. Heavy [22] The Stormcloaks see the Empire's Thalmor influenced laws as a threat to their Nordic way of life. A Stormcloak catapult besieging Whiterun. Though the Empire has appeased the Aldmeri Dominion's demands, Vittoria Vici, the cousin of Emperor Titus Mede II, states that the Empire has little love for the Dominion. Skyrim's Civil War Quest Explained. It is almost impossible to learn all its elements by yourself, so we created this tutorial. They used their shield walls to defend and attack. During the Great War against the Aldmeri Dominion, Ulfric was taken captive by the Dominion, and interrogated, after which he was listed as an asset to Elenwen. Their base of operations is the Palace of the Kings in the city of Windhelm, with Galmar Stone-Fist serving as their field commander. [48], Stormcloaks fighting Imperials as seen in alternate card art for ", Jarl Balgruuf with Imperial soldiers on either side, as seen in alternate card art for ". Community content is available under. The High King of Skyrim has been murdered. [20] Following the Imperial acceptance of Ulfric's demands, the Aldmeri Dominion forced Ulfric and his militia to be arrested, and established a presence in Skyrim to oversee enforcement of the ban on Talos worship, which had up until that point been largely ignored. Read C0DA, Thalmor got what they wanted. It began several years prior to the death of High King Torygg,[13][14] but worsened after he was slain by the Jarl of Windhelm, Ulfric Stormcloak. The Stormcloak rebellion represents a large enough portion of Skyrim's population to have triggered a civil war. [39] A noteworthy event is him directing the ambush, and capturing Ulfric Stormcloak and his top lieutenants at Darkwater Crossing. In fact, dialogue at the end of both the Stormcloak or Imperial Legion storylines hints at the preparations Skyrim will undergo to ready themselves for this eventuality. Stormcloaks my opinion: -a stoarmcloak victory will be made canon. I think they're going to call this the Dragon crisis and forget any rebellion happened. [18], Following the signing of the treaty, Ulfric led a force of militia to retake The Reach, which had declared independence under the Forsworn during the Great War. There is no "ending" in Elder Scrolls games. The Thalmor state that they benefit the most from a long war in which neither the Empire, nor the Stormcloaks "wins".[49]. Whether it's putting to rest an age-old civil war, halting Daedric influence or cleansing sprawling tombs of meandering draugr at the behest of locals, … The number will be multiplied by the Siege Size option. [18], At the end of the war in 4E 175, Emperor Titus Mede II signed the White-Gold Concordat. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. Combatants Balgruuf the Greater, Jarl of the central Whiterun Hold, remains uneasily neutral, but he eventually sides with the Empire. Ulfric held the city and refused to surrender it to the Imperial Legion until they agreed to allow Talos worship once again. [15] They believe once they have consolidated their control over Skyrim, they can set to reforming the autonomous kingdom into a strong and fearless nation capable of finishing the war with Aldmeri Dominion and not be hindered by the Empire's harmful policies.[24][25]. Instead, with the killing of Torygg, war sparked. Major Battles By dawn, the Legion's ranks wavered. [48][55][52][56] Shortly after Balgruuf got to know of this news, he declared his allegiance to the Empire. Skyrim Civil War She states that Torygg, if asked by Ulfric, may have stood up against the Empire. The Elder Scrolls is a series of action role-playing video games primarily developed by Bethesda Game Studios and published by Bethesda Softworks.The series focuses on free-form gameplay in a detailed open world. Dragon Crisis (4E 201)Forsworn Rebellion[10] [36] Furthermore, some of the Imperial supporters cling to the prosperous trade they have had with Cyrodiil,[37] while others simply believe they have a better chance of defending against the Aldmeri Dominion if they are united with the Empire. Defeat Alduin. The Imperial Legion preparing for the final assault on Windhelm. In the end it doesn't matter who wins in Skyrim both sides loose eventually because this civil war is what the Thalmor want so they can recover from huge losses against the Redguards and from their fight for the White Gold Tower. Casualties The way I see it, in the next elder scrolls title there are three possible options for the civil war: POSSIBLE SPOILER ALERTS FOR THOSE STILL PLAYING SKYRIM. Skyrim The outcome of the civil war has dramatic consequences for the Empire and the world, and is based solely on the decisions of the player. [15][16] According to Igmund, the Jarl of Markarth, the war "truly started" after Ulfric and his militia (the Stormcloaks) were imprisoned. Concurrent [49] While the Thalmor themselves were unsuccessful in stopping the execution, Alduin's attack on the town allowed Ulfric to escape. [33][34][35] These people state that the times of war between the Empire and Aldmeri Dominion should be over[35] and that peace and prosperity is good for everyone. Please feel free to contribute by creating new articles or expanding on existing ones. [31] Even so, high ranking Imperials do acknowledge that Ulfric is not wrong that the Thalmor hold influence over the Empire. Alliances form as claims to the throne are made. Titus II would have faced civil war. [51] The Thalmor dossier on Ulfric Stormcloak states than an Imperial victory harms the Thalmor's overall position in Skyrim and that a Stormcloak victory should also be avoided. The Elder Scrolls 5 Skyrim is one of the biggest games in history. [22][23], Besides stemming from deep discontentment with the ban on Talos worship, a secondary motivation behind the Stormcloak uprising is the belief that the Mede Dynasty and the Empire of Cyrodiil have become a puppet state of the Thalmor in all but name, and no longer has the legitimacy to rule over Skyrim. That is, if you decide to finish the main quest line and. The Elder Scrolls IV: Knights of the Nine, https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Skyrim_Civil_War?oldid=3122925. Strength I also wish that the Civil War had had a more complete conclusion - that the Moot actually took place at the end and we got to see the victor become High King, that things radically change across Skyrim because of the new leadership. I also wish that the Dragonborn going to … Commanders Prior to the Markarth Incident, everyone still had their shrines of Talos. *spoilers obviously* User Info: ravenscourge. Many look to him as a leader, rallying behind his cause in the Civil War. The Stormcloak uprising was initiated by Jarl Ulfric Stormcloak of Eastmarch after the Markarth Incident,[1] and aims to remove the Imperial Legion from Skyrim and turn the province into an independent kingdom. In Skyrim, a Civil War rages between the Imperial Legion, occupiers lead by General Tullius and the Nordic Stormcloak rebels lead by Ulfric Stormcloak, Jarl of Windhelm. Something happens towards the end of the civil war that interrupts both endings, this could be the Thalmor, the Dragons (There's still enough to put an end to the war, and perhaps Dovahkiin is feeling a bit anti-heroish), Argonians, Redguard, or a reserve army of Imperial conscripts, it all works. [17], During the Great War against the Aldmeri Dominion, Ulfric was taken captive by the Dominion, and interrogated, after which he was listed as an asset to Elenwen. ravenscourge 7 years ago #1. However, this choice only determines which side you will be first asked to join. He leads the Imperial war effort. It contains a complete walkthrough describing all the quests present in the game (main, side, Deadric, Guild-related, and those related to the civil war), as well as their branching paths and alternative ways of completing them. The Empire of Tamriel is on the edge. The Imperial banner (left) and the Stormcloak banner (right). [32] Some Imperial loyal Jarls and lords recognize the power of the Thalmor and seek to ingratiate themselves with them if it serves their interests. You are only able to choose one side, which leads you down a large questline helping the faction you decided to side with. 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